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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:31:00 -
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Not sure if this topic has been discussed before but I was wondering how the community felt on improving the current skill training process.
Currently adding things to queue is quite bland if you ask me. Why not implement a system which rewards players for doing activities while online such as pvp combat, pve combat, etc.
How the player could be rewarded is a SP bar which players earn doing certain activities and at the end of each week/month players can spend these points on skills they like. Now obviously it wouldn't amount to 1million being applied weekly or monthly but maybe a max of 500 points.
Not only would this benefit current players but it would definitely help new players as well feel as if their character is progressing in a meaningful way.
No flaming and please provide constructive feedback as to why or why not this would help/hurt current game mechanics.
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:42:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Hell no. Grind is not acceptable.
So you feel pvp is grinding or doing things that earn your character isk is as well? These are things all players engage in EVE. Why not reward them for doing it.
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:44:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Mag's wrote:Hell no. Grind is not acceptable. So you feel pvp is grinding or doing things that earn your character isk is as well? These are things all players engage in EVE. Why not reward them for doing it. No, I feel grinding for SP is unacceptable. You want that type of system, then go elsewhere.
So it's acceptable to grind unless it involves SP? Why is that?
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:52:00 -
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Sejania Tor wrote:This isn't wow or any of the other kill ten rats gain experience rpgs. Let's keep what we have and let the others keep theirs.
Not relating this to any other mmo.
If you like the current system, cool.
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:03:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:
So it's acceptable to grind unless it involves SP? Why is that?
Fairness. Everyone in EVE gains the same amount of SP as everyone else no matter how much time they have to play.
True depending on their implants. This is similar to what i'm suggesting. What's the difference gaining isk doing pve/pvp content to aquire these implants. Why not add another layer by engaging in activities which provides bonuses to sp training. |
Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:11:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Mag's wrote:No, I feel grinding for SP is unacceptable. You want that type of system, then go elsewhere. So it's acceptable to grind unless it involves SP? Why is that? Because SP isn't the be all and end all of Eve. It's only one part and works very well as it stands right now. Plus any type of system like this, is open for abuse. This is why it didn't last long the first time it was introduced early on in Eve's life. Also, there is only grind in Eve, if you want there to be grind in Eve. This promotes it and is wrong for that fact.
How is adding a small 250-500 points weekly/monthly a "be all and end all of eve." Is adding implants which are acquired through isk, do they share the same fate?
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:23:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:This would mostly benefit the botters, so
no.
PvP now has botters?
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:26:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Mag's wrote:Hell no. Grind is not acceptable. So you feel pvp is grinding or doing things that earn your character isk is as well? These are things all players engage in EVE. Why not reward them for doing it and give players more control of their characters' progression. A Market alt or PI centric toon would earn nothing.....ever. Bad idea is bad idea.
Market toon shouldn't be rewarded. Promoting people flying their spaceships and blowing stuff up should because they're engaging with other players in a "MMO."
Not saying making isk through the market is bad.
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:27:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:This would mostly benefit the botters, so
no. PvP now has botters? You included PvE Combat in your original post. But I'm not surprised you 'forgot'.
I did forget and it wasn't intentional. Maybe you forgot about the AI update.
PVP/PVE have botters?
^^
there ya go
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:33:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Mag's wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Mag's wrote:No, I feel grinding for SP is unacceptable. You want that type of system, then go elsewhere. So it's acceptable to grind unless it involves SP? Why is that? Because SP isn't the be all and end all of Eve. It's only one part and works very well as it stands right now. Plus any type of system like this, is open for abuse. This is why it didn't last long the first time it was introduced early on in Eve's life. Also, there is only grind in Eve, if you want there to be grind in Eve. This promotes it and is wrong for that fact. How is adding a small 250-500 points weekly/monthly a "be all and end all of eve." Adding implants which are acquired through isk, do they share the same fate? Because it's something not open to all, whereas Implants are. Just because someone chooses not to invest in Implants, doesn't mean they cannot. But many players cannot invest large quantities of game time, as real life messes with it. Any system that require grind, becomes a burden to game play. The lack of grind in Eve, is why I've kept playing it for 9 years. Why do you ignore the fact we had this once and it was abused. Do you honestly think it would be again?
Abused because maybe it was poorly implemented? Why are we throwing around "large quantities of game time" maybe blowing up 1 ship in a month just gained you 25 points to apply or something> ?
System that requires grind? No new system is being implemented other than adding a bonus to things players enjoy in the game currently: blowing up ships.
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Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:42:00 -
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Vagilicious wrote:Whilst I agree in principle that this wouldn't be a good thing for Eve, a certain other CCP game that ties into Eve does exactly this. (And I hope I'm not breaching NDA by saying that, this information is available freely in the forum subsection for this game).
If a system like this was to be considered, then it should be capped so that when a player reaches, say, 5m SP the extra SP acquisition stops. This would stop the mechanic being abused while at the same time giving new players a bit of a leg up, and wouldn't benefit older players at all.
I Still feel that all players should benefit because adding 25 - 500 points shouldn't amount too much for a character with 40+ million sp's.
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